Thanks for the laughs. If I had to choose between my games that are in BGG's top 100, or the rest of my games, I'd choose the rest of my games. So I suppose it's a load of bollocks. The thing for me is that we all have different taste. My favourite game, Aristeia!, isn't in the top 1000. Maybe it's crap. But I love it and that's all that matters.
Loved your advice at the end. I had hit a stride of trying to find a bunch of games I’d “love” to play and just realized recently that I am just trying to fill a void I have. Games aren’t going to do that, that’s a fact. I do love playing games, but honestly I can’t ever find satisfactory enjoyment if I keep searching new games for it. I enjoy playing with people, that’s what it is all about, and I have more than enough games to do that with. I’m clearing shelves, and cutting my new game purchases too.
Played TI4 and felt like Samuel L. Jackson in Changing Lanes wanting to scream out “Can you give me back my time?!”. I’ve enjoyed watching these videos and was looking forward to you ripping TI4 a new one. I guess we don’t get everything we wish for.
FFS are the People at Boardgamegeek like 20? WHy are all the board games brand new? Was this for ALL TIME or was it for like the past 10 years? This list was complete shite.
Tried Gloomhaven with a friend but we gave up after 40 hours as the effort to enjoyment ratio was to low for us. Expected a dungeon crawler but got what felt like a light puzzle game. As for the card combat it was good but nowhere near good enough to sustain a game of such length.
Having similar issues with Oathsworn atm. Fun enough but such a pain in the arse to setup and play and massively overproduced. Probably going to end up selling tbh.
For 2023 it would be cool to see if there are any changes (additions – subtractions) from your shelf that you want to talk about. Another cool one could be the games you like playing with 6 players, even though cyclades is your fav – is it your fav 6 player experience 🤷♂️🤔
Pandemic Legacy 1, 2, and 0 are different enough that they DO deserve different entries. And We friggin' loved 'em. The basic pandemic mechanism is the same, but then gets turned topsy-turvy through the different stories.
The BGG mods are now forming an angry mob to try to destroy the life of the designer of Terraforming Mars for wrong-think. BGG is a cesspool of degenerates.
I made a return to board gaming this year after a long hiatus. Naturally, I found the BGG Top 100 and went a bit apeshit with the acquisitions at first. There are some gems on this list for sure but the thing I've learned most about this list… is that they hold their resale value well once you find out loads of them are not delivering on your expectations (which, I admit, are subjective), and decide to divest of them on eBay. Oh well – it was worth going through the process to find which kinds of games or mechanics I truly enjoy, and buy those instead of whatever is being hyped at this exact moment. Brass Birmingham is staying in my permanent collection, though!
10) Star Wars: Rebellion – 8/10 , good game, happy to play. 9) War of the Ring – N/A, haven't played it but interested. 8) Jaws of the Lion – N/A, haven't played it and not that interested. 7) Dune Imperium – 7/10, a good game but not great. The expansions are also just "okay". 6) Terraforming Mars – 7/10, used to like this one more but it's lost its luster over time. 5) TI4 – 9/10, hard to get to the table but worth every minute. One of my favorite games. 4) Ark Nova – 5/10, I found it slow and frustrating and, honestly, quite boring. 3) Gloomhaven – 6/10, fine for what it is, I'd just rather invest that kind of time and energy in a pen-and-paper RPG. 2) Pandemic Legacy – N/A, haven't played but have played other Pandemics and don't much care for them. 1) Brass – N/A, haven't played and not interested. Not my style of game and I'd probably be bored to tears.
The BGG list to me is a "kairos" score. How big did said game capitalize on their moment. I agree the top 100 is fairly useless, but don't bash the whole site…it's a great resource
Totally with you on Star Wars and Lord of the Rings tosh. Also played Gloomhaven once when a mate proudly announced he had blown over a ton on it! One headache enducing session later, I found it would have been more productive hitting myself over the head with the game box for 3-4 hours.
Well i am a big fan of Gloomhaven so I could get all nostalgic about what a significant milestone it is for boardgaming, blah blah. But really i just love dungeon crawlers and GH has strategic play, interesting classes, and hand management. And no dice! Plus its coop where its easier to teach and limits alpha gaming. Overall i think its awsome, but i see how ppl dont like it… especially to get consistent plays, or some missions are samesy. I dont mind setup/teardown for a long game session. Ive been considering Mage Knight… but GH won me over.
Right there with you on Ark Nova. I dismissed it, expecting to absolutely hate it (as I hated Terraforming Mars with a passion.) Thankfully I tried it and was glad I did. Great game. I'm a Dune fan, grew up with the Lynch movie + first book–really dig Dune: Imperium. Works well solo, too.
This top 10 list is meant for people who spend hours in a setting that love pulling levers like an aircraft pilot and don’t have much else going on other than BGs. It reminds me of how people that love hot sauce will look down their nose or don’t understand why most people generally enjoy jalapeños.
Isn’t the best board game that is the most accessible, that everyone can enjoy, and doesn’t destroy your life?
Screw all these big, massive things. I’m tired of the “well…it’s for this kind of person, or that…” then it shouldn’t be on a list that’s geared toward everyone.
Because, sadly, board games aren’t geared toward everyone and the community doesn’t want them to be. They want DND in a board form.
If you have even 3 total people to consistently play Pandemic Legacy…please do…Legacy type games are not as rare now, so it might not have the punch for you as it did for me almost 5 years ago… but give this one a shot. The overall experience is difficult to top. Thanks for all of your content. Hurry up to Las Vegas!
I do agree that the list is far from perfect. Certain games have very strong fan bases as seen from the Gloomhaven obsession. Changes I would make…. 1. No repeats: I don't want to see Gloomhaven and Pandemic three or more times. 2. Stop following the hotness: If the game is on its third edition it can qualify for the top 100. 3. I wouldn't allow you to rate a game until you actually received it and played it at least 5 times. I hate seeing 10 or 1 in the ratings on a game that isn't even out. Good points. Good entertainment. Thanks.
to be fair, the only reason that Brass and Pandemic passes Gloomhaven was because of all the review bombing fake accounts on BGG that pushed them up. So many brand new accounts that only ever ranked two games, Gloomhaven as a 1 and Brass as a 10. Very convenient.
Dune Imperium might be one of the worst games I’ve ever played and I’m absolutely shocked Starwars Rebellion even cracked the top 1,000. Without both of these games piggy backing off their IP, they wouldn’t get a second look. Both are garbage
Excellent points. But the list is certainly not stupid: it’s the culmination of heaps of bgg members running to the next shiny Kickstarter and to finance their dopamine they need to sell their old. That’s what is known as pump and dump.
Don’t be the greater fool. When the music stops, you’re left without storage space.
Another sickness is all these wannabe influencers that only superficially treat a shiny game box some publisher sent to them. We all know that after filming and before the footage goes public this game was already sold for money. Guy’s gotta eat right.
Pandemic Legacy is excellent and I can fully understand why it still sits at #2. Playing through it gave me and my wife some of the greatest board game moments. It works wonders with two players. The game length is kind of perfect for a busy couple, you can just squeeze a game in after putting the kids to bed, and for those who have all the time in the world it would be no problem playing two games in a row.
It IS a legacy game though. Which means it ends up in the bin sooner or later. I've taken out most of the bits and use them as markers at the RPG-table, but the rest is long gone. So as long as you don't rate infinite replayability above all else I think you'll be pleased. Gameplay is really tight and even though we didn't lose a single scenario every scenario victory felt well earned and like a struggle. It is not recommended for groups who doesn't get it out regularly though. I can easily see this game getting stuck mid-campaign on the shelf. And it is not for people who suck at organizing.
I really love the honest videos. No promoting content, keeping it real. My suggestion for a video would be the same video but top 100 before 2015 or 2010.
BGG's instructs users to rate games on how eager they are to play them rather than how good they think they are. It's not a trivial distinction and over the last several years this has skewed the results towards new games over persoanl favorites. KS hype etc might exagerates the trend but the issue lies in BGG's approach. As such they should simply call their top 100 – the list of games users are most eager to try this moment…
I'm an enthusiastic BGG regular but could gave a rat's ass about their rating system and their topp 100 means nothing to me.
I’ve heard Birmingham is beautiful in January.
I don t get why that channel has only 18 k subs. One of the best where you can have real opinion … Keep going, really good job.
Thanks for the laughs. If I had to choose between my games that are in BGG's top 100, or the rest of my games, I'd choose the rest of my games. So I suppose it's a load of bollocks. The thing for me is that we all have different taste. My favourite game, Aristeia!, isn't in the top 1000. Maybe it's crap. But I love it and that's all that matters.
Loved your advice at the end. I had hit a stride of trying to find a bunch of games I’d “love” to play and just realized recently that I am just trying to fill a void I have. Games aren’t going to do that, that’s a fact. I do love playing games, but honestly I can’t ever find satisfactory enjoyment if I keep searching new games for it. I enjoy playing with people, that’s what it is all about, and I have more than enough games to do that with.
I’m clearing shelves, and cutting my new game purchases too.
Played TI4 and felt like Samuel L. Jackson in Changing Lanes wanting to scream out “Can you give me back my time?!”. I’ve enjoyed watching these videos and was looking forward to you ripping TI4 a new one. I guess we don’t get everything we wish for.
FFS are the People at Boardgamegeek like 20? WHy are all the board games brand new? Was this for ALL TIME or was it for like the past 10 years? This list was complete shite.
Loving this series. Keep up the good work mate.
This channel is basically everything that's true that would be downvoted to oblivion on Reddit. Such a breath of fresh air.
Tried Gloomhaven with a friend but we gave up after 40 hours as the effort to enjoyment ratio was to low for us. Expected a dungeon crawler but got what felt like a light puzzle game. As for the card combat it was good but nowhere near good enough to sustain a game of such length.
Having similar issues with Oathsworn atm. Fun enough but such a pain in the arse to setup and play and massively overproduced. Probably going to end up selling tbh.
For 2023 it would be cool to see if there are any changes (additions – subtractions) from your shelf that you want to talk about. Another cool one could be the games you like playing with 6 players, even though cyclades is your fav – is it your fav 6 player experience 🤷♂️🤔
Pandemic Legacy 1, 2, and 0 are different enough that they DO deserve different entries. And We friggin' loved 'em. The basic pandemic mechanism is the same, but then gets turned topsy-turvy through the different stories.
They need to put this quote on the Brass Birmingham box.
“It’s like Brass Lancaster with a cock ring!”
Pandemic legacy is really really REALLY good indeed
Love the series!
You're fucking mad if Ark Nova is an 8 and War of the Ring is a 5 😂
TM is one of best engine building games, but yes, artwork are random pictures from google 🙂
The BGG mods are now forming an angry mob to try to destroy the life of the designer of Terraforming Mars for wrong-think.
BGG is a cesspool of degenerates.
Memoir 44 not even in the top 100 what a crock of shit
Excellent video. Quality bants! 😂
I made a return to board gaming this year after a long hiatus. Naturally, I found the BGG Top 100 and went a bit apeshit with the acquisitions at first. There are some gems on this list for sure but the thing I've learned most about this list… is that they hold their resale value well once you find out loads of them are not delivering on your expectations (which, I admit, are subjective), and decide to divest of them on eBay. Oh well – it was worth going through the process to find which kinds of games or mechanics I truly enjoy, and buy those instead of whatever is being hyped at this exact moment. Brass Birmingham is staying in my permanent collection, though!
10) Star Wars: Rebellion – 8/10 , good game, happy to play.
9) War of the Ring – N/A, haven't played it but interested.
8) Jaws of the Lion – N/A, haven't played it and not that interested.
7) Dune Imperium – 7/10, a good game but not great. The expansions are also just "okay".
6) Terraforming Mars – 7/10, used to like this one more but it's lost its luster over time.
5) TI4 – 9/10, hard to get to the table but worth every minute. One of my favorite games.
4) Ark Nova – 5/10, I found it slow and frustrating and, honestly, quite boring.
3) Gloomhaven – 6/10, fine for what it is, I'd just rather invest that kind of time and energy in a pen-and-paper RPG.
2) Pandemic Legacy – N/A, haven't played but have played other Pandemics and don't much care for them.
1) Brass – N/A, haven't played and not interested. Not my style of game and I'd probably be bored to tears.
Cheers!
Make a cock ring metaphor? Lol.
The BGG list to me is a "kairos" score. How big did said game capitalize on their moment. I agree the top 100 is fairly useless, but don't bash the whole site…it's a great resource
Totally with you on Star Wars and Lord of the Rings tosh. Also played Gloomhaven once when a mate proudly announced he had blown over a ton on it! One headache enducing session later, I found it would have been more productive hitting myself over the head with the game box for 3-4 hours.
Love this.Anytime people stick it to the blue haired nuts at BGG it’s a good thimg.
Well i am a big fan of Gloomhaven so I could get all nostalgic about what a significant milestone it is for boardgaming, blah blah. But really i just love dungeon crawlers and GH has strategic play, interesting classes, and hand management. And no dice! Plus its coop where its easier to teach and limits alpha gaming. Overall i think its awsome, but i see how ppl dont like it… especially to get consistent plays, or some missions are samesy. I dont mind setup/teardown for a long game session. Ive been considering Mage Knight… but GH won me over.
Now – DO DICE TOWER NEXT!!
Yeah, I don’t think TI4 is as good as you say it is.
Right there with you on Ark Nova. I dismissed it, expecting to absolutely hate it (as I hated Terraforming Mars with a passion.) Thankfully I tried it and was glad I did. Great game. I'm a Dune fan, grew up with the Lynch movie + first book–really dig Dune: Imperium. Works well solo, too.
Why is board game purity akin to hot sauces?
This top 10 list is meant for people who spend hours in a setting that love pulling levers like an aircraft pilot and don’t have much else going on other than BGs. It reminds me of how people that love hot sauce will look down their nose or don’t understand why most people generally enjoy jalapeños.
Isn’t the best board game that is the most accessible, that everyone can enjoy, and doesn’t destroy your life?
Screw all these big, massive things. I’m tired of the “well…it’s for this kind of person, or that…” then it shouldn’t be on a list that’s geared toward everyone.
Because, sadly, board games aren’t geared toward everyone and the community doesn’t want them to be. They want DND in a board form.
If you have even 3 total people to consistently play Pandemic Legacy…please do…Legacy type games are not as rare now, so it might not have the punch for you as it did for me almost 5 years ago… but give this one a shot. The overall experience is difficult to top. Thanks for all of your content. Hurry up to Las Vegas!
I do agree that the list is far from perfect. Certain games have very strong fan bases as seen from the Gloomhaven obsession. Changes I would make….
1. No repeats: I don't want to see Gloomhaven and Pandemic three or more times.
2. Stop following the hotness:
If the game is on its third edition it can qualify for the top 100.
3. I wouldn't allow you to rate a game until you actually received it and played it at least 5 times. I hate seeing 10 or 1 in the ratings on a game that isn't even out.
Good points. Good entertainment. Thanks.
Now I'm curious about your top 100.
Even board game bollocks has a few good things about Dune Imperium.
Just play TI4
to be fair, the only reason that Brass and Pandemic passes Gloomhaven was because of all the review bombing fake accounts on BGG that pushed them up. So many brand new accounts that only ever ranked two games, Gloomhaven as a 1 and Brass as a 10. Very convenient.
Dune Imperium might be one of the worst games I’ve ever played and I’m absolutely shocked Starwars Rebellion even cracked the top 1,000. Without both of these games piggy backing off their IP, they wouldn’t get a second look. Both are garbage
what is BGG?
Played one episode of Jaws of the Lion and never touched it again……sold it at the sellers market. Just didn't do anything for us.
Pandemic Legacy is game guy as SeaFail right?
Brilliant video!
"Frosthaven is like Gloomhaven thats been thrown into a snowman!" Hahaha, too good. 😂 Love the reviews.
Vikings Risk +, Kingmaker , with variant events cards , clergy drawn to events++ all the other medieval bolloks going on iz a blast az well m8
Excellent points. But the list is certainly not stupid: it’s the culmination of heaps of bgg members running to the next shiny Kickstarter and to finance their dopamine they need to sell their old. That’s what is known as pump and dump.
Don’t be the greater fool. When the music stops, you’re left without storage space.
Another sickness is all these wannabe influencers that only superficially treat a shiny game box some publisher sent to them. We all know that after filming and before the footage goes public this game was already sold for money. Guy’s gotta eat right.
Pandemic Legacy is excellent and I can fully understand why it still sits at #2. Playing through it gave me and my wife some of the greatest board game moments. It works wonders with two players. The game length is kind of perfect for a busy couple, you can just squeeze a game in after putting the kids to bed, and for those who have all the time in the world it would be no problem playing two games in a row.
It IS a legacy game though. Which means it ends up in the bin sooner or later. I've taken out most of the bits and use them as markers at the RPG-table, but the rest is long gone. So as long as you don't rate infinite replayability above all else I think you'll be pleased. Gameplay is really tight and even though we didn't lose a single scenario every scenario victory felt well earned and like a struggle. It is not recommended for groups who doesn't get it out regularly though. I can easily see this game getting stuck mid-campaign on the shelf. And it is not for people who suck at organizing.
I really love the honest videos. No promoting content, keeping it real.
My suggestion for a video would be the same video but top 100 before 2015 or 2010.
The Best…..Portsmouth’s finest!
Well said!
Beautiful always thought that exactly, mite be hard work but would love to see your top 100 then to now as I do play nearly the same games you do.
Loved Pandemic Season 1. Just finished season 2. Not quite as good but it's up there. Agree Brass is good but not number 1. That should be Root. 😈
Frosthaven: it's Gloomhaven that's been thrown into a snowman! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
BGG's instructs users to rate games on how eager they are to play them rather than how good they think they are. It's not a trivial distinction and over the last several years this has skewed the results towards new games over persoanl favorites. KS hype etc might exagerates the trend but the issue lies in BGG's approach. As such they should simply call their top 100 – the list of games users are most eager to try this moment…
I'm an enthusiastic BGG regular but could gave a rat's ass about their rating system and their topp 100 means nothing to me.